[64studio-devel] fst is in the testing branch.. and wineasio too :)

[R.Wolff]

Daniel James schrieb:
> Hi Raphael,
> 
>> telling that
>> those VST/i's are written for Win98 is not really correct.
>> Many/most of them won't even run anymore on that platform but instead
>> need at least W2k/WinXP.
> 
> Sure, but VST dates from around 1996 and win32 is even older (1993). I
> was just making the point that if we hope to support plugin technologies
> going into the future, it makes sense to support a modern, fully open
> standard, and our preference is for free software and native code.
> 
That's fully good to support modern technologies on modern platforms
Daniel, it's just that the 64-Bit bandwagon only starts taking off
slowly now and it'll still need an healthy amount of time until
everybody's on ship.

>> And then there's so much stuff out there, free or commercial, that at
>> the pace Linux apps are developing, it would take at least another 10
>> years to catch up what's there for Win NOW.
> 
> It's my view that attempting to clone Windows is not the way forward.
> For people who want Windows, there is a product called Windows Vista
> which is widely available :-)
>
I'm not talking about cloning Windows here, and my guess is that almost
all musicians using Computers (and Linux by a certain amount) still keep
themselves a WinXP/Vista partition available for more serious (virtual)
studio work. I know I do for sure.
I'm only starting with Linux distributions now because of Windows Vista,
security/network reasons and then some. Also, I very much like the ideas
and principles behind the Free Software/Open Source movement.



> Some are not RT capable, but the majority are.
> 
>> And for me the most interesting stuff is not even the plugins, but the
>> virtual instruments
> 
> It's true that the Native Instruments replicas are popular, like the B4.
>
It's not only NI's stuff, although I still use their FM7, which I
personally find to be THE/ONE OF THE best alltime virtual instruments to
be found on whatever platform. But there's so many Free Synths out there
it's almost frightening. Just have a look at stuff like 'EVOL'
'MinimoogLuxus', 'ARP2600', 'Crystal', the whole line of 'Odo Synths'
etc....
Just have a look at kvraudio, from the thousands of free VST Synths,
there are hundreds which are good-very good and certainly a few dozens
which are really GREAT.

>> it seems that wine-asio IS actively developed by some guys from
>> the JAD Jacklab team.
> 
> It was actually written by Robert Reif, but was not accepted into WINE.
> I think there have been some patches to it earlier this year in the JAD
> version, but I haven't seen an official announcement of that.
> 
Didn't know that, I thought it would have been integrated into wine at
some point.

>> Also there seems to be an alternative VST-Host
>> (Jucetice) developed by a member of that same team.
> 
> I think that's based on Jost, which only supports VSTs which have been
> recompiled for Linux (not the usual binary-only Windows VSTs).
>
Ah OK, so far it's not always very clear to a non-developer/non-geek
like me ;)
Anyway, I didn't mean to offend you or anybody else for that, only
giving a few thoughts of mine and some points of discussion.

> Cheers!
> 
> Daniel
> 
Regards and all best

Raphael ;)