[64studio-devel] What would you like to see in a 64 Studio book?
Pete Crook
petecrook at blueyonder.co.uk
Tue May 1 22:00:31 UTC 2007
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> 1. What would you like to see in a 64 Studio book? (Daniel James)
> 2. Re: What would you like to see in a 64 Studio book?
> (Quentin Harley)
> 3. Re: What would you like to see in a 64 Studio book? (Nate figlar)
> 4. quick network question DNS issue (Nate figlar)
> 5. Re: quick network question DNS issue (Quentin Harley)
> 6. Re: quick network question DNS issue (Nate figlar)
> 7. Re: quick network question DNS issue (Ian Cote)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 16:38:01 +0100
> From: Daniel James <daniel at 64studio.com>
> Subject: [64studio-devel] What would you like to see in a 64 Studio
> book?
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> Hello all,
>
> We're considering what the contents of an official reference guide to 64
> Studio should be. We'd really appreciate it if you could send us your
> thoughts, either on the list or offlist.
>
> Also, if such a book was available, how much would you be prepared to
> pay for the paperback? How about for an e-book version, available as a PDF?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 19:31:15 +0200
> From: Quentin Harley <qharley at wbs.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [64studio-devel] What would you like to see in a 64
> Studio book?
> To: Daniel James <daniel at 64studio.com>
> Cc: 64Studio mailing list <64studio-devel at 64studio.com>
> Message-ID: <46377963.3090000 at wbs.co.za>
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> Daniel James wrote:
>
>> We're considering what the contents of an official reference guide to 64
>> Studio should be.
>>
>>
>
> If you create a guide, it should have a "64Studio for dummies"
> installatoin chapter, helping even the thickest bass player (
> ;-) ) through installing the distro on his or her home PC, be
> it 64bit or 32bit. Should include the potential pitfalls, such as "Your
> on-board Ethernet connector may be eth2, because your two firewire
> controllers gets picked up first"
> Things like that.
>
> It should (if possible) also include a quick start guide to use all the
> major apps in 64, like JACK, ardour, rosegarden, hydrogen, jamin etc.
>
> Also if possible, more in depth info on the tricky apps, like a 123
> mastering with Jamin chapter ( In short, all the stuff I had to learn
> the hard way, because no one I knew would think of using linux for
> sound. Now it is fast becoming a different story though!
>
>> Also, if such a book was available, how much would you be prepared to
>> pay for the paperback? How about for an e-book version, available as a PDF?
>>
>>
>
> I normally pay around R200 to R300 for a good reference guide (if it's
> worth it) and then it normally includes a CD/DVD with examples and
> software. That translates to around 20 pound Sterling, or $30 US.
>
> eBook - no idea. I like paper in my hands. I'll probably print it out
> if I get in in ebook form.
>
> my 2p
>
> Quentin
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:59:50 -0400
> From: "Nate figlar" <sonorone at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [64studio-devel] What would you like to see in a 64
> Studio book?
> To: "Quentin Harley" <qharley at wbs.co.za>
> Cc: 64Studio mailing list <64studio-devel at 64studio.com>
> Message-ID:
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> On 5/1/07, Quentin Harley <qharley at wbs.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Daniel James wrote:
>>
>>> We're considering what the contents of an official reference guide to 64
>>> Studio should be.
>>>
>>>
>> If you create a guide, it should have a "64Studio for dummies"
>> installatoin chapter, helping even the thickest bass player (
>> ;-) ) through installing the distro on his or her home PC, be
>> it 64bit or 32bit. Should include the potential pitfalls, such as "Your
>> on-board Ethernet connector may be eth2, because your two firewire
>> controllers gets picked up first"
>> Things like that.
>>
>> It should (if possible) also include a quick start guide to use all the
>> major apps in 64, like JACK, ardour, rosegarden, hydrogen, jamin etc.
>>
>
> Yeah it's funny you should mention that I have been talking myself
> with a few others about that and playing around with a few webpages at
> home that maybe going that way. you know how us music types would
> rather play with the knobs and get started than read manuals.
>
>
>> Also if possible, more in depth info on the tricky apps, like a 123
>> mastering with Jamin chapter ( In short, all the stuff I had to learn
>> the hard way, because no one I knew would think of using linux for
>> sound. Now it is fast becoming a different story though!
>>
>>> Also, if such a book was available, how much would you be prepared to
>>> pay for the paperback? How about for an e-book version, available as a PDF?
>>>
>>>
>> I normally pay around R200 to R300 for a good reference guide (if it's
>> worth it) and then it normally includes a CD/DVD with examples and
>> software. That translates to around 20 pound Sterling, or $30 US.
>>
>> eBook - no idea. I like paper in my hands. I'll probably print it out
>> if I get in in ebook form.
>>
>> my 2p
>>
>> Quentin
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:57:33 -0400
> From: "Nate figlar" <sonorone at gmail.com>
> Subject: [64studio-devel] quick network question DNS issue
> To: "64Studio mailing list" <64studio-devel at 64studio.com>
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> hey everyone,
>
> I have been running into one small issue on my network connection
> regarding my DNS. everytime I boot. I have to manually remove my DNS
> settings and reset them to my isp's DNS adressess. if I don't my DSL
> gateway takes forever to find anything. my question is where would I
> set those manually so they will not be changed by my gateway after
> reboot. I remember when i was using ubuntu i could save them but for
> some reason the control panel hasn't been able to do that. is there a
> file I can edit somewhere? any help at all would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> cheers
> nate
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 21:12:30 +0200
> From: Quentin Harley <qharley at wbs.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [64studio-devel] quick network question DNS issue
> To: Nate figlar <sonorone at gmail.com>
> Cc: 64Studio mailing list <64studio-devel at 64studio.com>
> Message-ID: <4637911E.5010803 at wbs.co.za>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Nate figlar wrote:
>
>> hey everyone,
>>
>> I have been running into one small issue on my network connection
>> regarding my DNS. everytime I boot. I have to manually remove my DNS
>> settings and reset them to my isp's DNS adressess. if I don't my DSL
>> gateway takes forever to find anything. my question is where would I
>> set those manually so they will not be changed by my gateway after
>> reboot. I remember when i was using ubuntu i could save them but for
>> some reason the control panel hasn't been able to do that. is there a
>> file I can edit somewhere? any help at all would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>
> Hey Nate,
>
> I don't have that problem, because I set up my DSL router to forward
> that info automatically via DHCP. The only gateway according to my
> 64studio PC is the address of the router.
>
> I don't know If this helped you by any degree though...
>
> Quentin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 15:27:31 -0400
> From: "Nate figlar" <sonorone at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [64studio-devel] quick network question DNS issue
> To: "64Studio mailing list" <64studio-devel at 64studio.com>
> Message-ID:
> <ef5a1c020705011227i2a1f15e7t30fa239146e06e05 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> yeah I tried that route quentin unfortunately I have a terrible ISP
> that supplies thier customers with terrible gateway routers. and if
> you try to even mention linux they cut you off to say "we only
> recommend using windows with our systems, sign up for a 2 year
> contract and we can get to a dell with xp on it." yeah like I want a
> cheap 200 us dollar dell and have to put up with 2 more years of bad
> service just because I have no other alternative LOL. ah hopefully
> some other company will be putting up gateways in my area to bettter
> service me.
>
> but yeah I have followed the directions exactly as followed and was
> told by my isp that yeah it was a bug that isn't working on that
> model. I was hoping that maybe somewhere I could find the file in /etc
> somewhere that would have the setting then maybe set it for read only
> so it can't be changed. I do apreciate the advice though quentin
> thanks for pointing me in that direction
>
> as for anyone might have any ideas if my plan might work or not again
> any input is greatly appreciated.
>
> nate
>
> On 5/1/07, Quentin Harley <qharley at wbs.co.za> wrote:
>
>> Nate figlar wrote:
>>
>>> hey everyone,
>>>
>>> I have been running into one small issue on my network connection
>>> regarding my DNS. everytime I boot. I have to manually remove my DNS
>>> settings and reset them to my isp's DNS adressess. if I don't my DSL
>>> gateway takes forever to find anything. my question is where would I
>>> set those manually so they will not be changed by my gateway after
>>> reboot. I remember when i was using ubuntu i could save them but for
>>> some reason the control panel hasn't been able to do that. is there a
>>> file I can edit somewhere? any help at all would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>> Hey Nate,
>>
>> I don't have that problem, because I set up my DSL router to forward
>> that info automatically via DHCP. The only gateway according to my
>> 64studio PC is the address of the router.
>>
>> I don't know If this helped you by any degree though...
>>
>> Quentin
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 12:44:44 -0700
> From: Ian Cote <ianc at speakeasy.org>
> Subject: Re: [64studio-devel] quick network question DNS issue
> To: Nate figlar <sonorone at gmail.com>
> Cc: 64Studio mailing list <64studio-devel at 64studio.com>
> Message-ID: <1178048684.7819.20.camel at wisp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hey there Nate -
>
> I felt yer pain for a while with my ISP too. The DSL router provided
> ALWAYS put itself first in the resolution order, so lookups took
> forever.
>
> You might read the man page for dhclient.conf. The file itself is
> located in /etc. There is a supersede option you can use to have
> dhclient override the provided information gained from the server. If
> that doesn't work, you can also eliminate having dhclient even request
> domain-servers at all.
>
> With this, you could continue to use dhcp to configure the IP/gateway
> information, but keep your own domain-lookup info.
>
> Another option (which is what I've got running at home) is to turn off
> dhcp on the router altogether. I've got a small server running to
> nat/firewall/dns/fileshare/backups running and there I can set
> everything I want.
>
> Hope this helps -
> ian
>
> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:27 -0400, Nate figlar wrote:
>
>
>> yeah I tried that route quentin unfortunately I have a terrible ISP
>> that supplies thier customers with terrible gateway routers. and if
>> you try to even mention linux they cut you off to say "we only
>> recommend using windows with our systems, sign up for a 2 year
>> contract and we can get to a dell with xp on it." yeah like I want a
>> cheap 200 us dollar dell and have to put up with 2 more years of bad
>> service just because I have no other alternative LOL. ah hopefully
>> some other company will be putting up gateways in my area to bettter
>> service me.
>>
>> but yeah I have followed the directions exactly as followed and was
>> told by my isp that yeah it was a bug that isn't working on that
>> model. I was hoping that maybe somewhere I could find the file in /etc
>> somewhere that would have the setting then maybe set it for read only
>> so it can't be changed. I do apreciate the advice though quentin
>> thanks for pointing me in that direction
>>
>> as for anyone might have any ideas if my plan might work or not again
>> any input is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> nate
>>
>> On 5/1/07, Quentin Harley <qharley at wbs.co.za> wrote:
>>
>>> Nate figlar wrote:
>>>
>>>> hey everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I have been running into one small issue on my network connection
>>>> regarding my DNS. everytime I boot. I have to manually remove my DNS
>>>> settings and reset them to my isp's DNS adressess. if I don't my DSL
>>>> gateway takes forever to find anything. my question is where would I
>>>> set those manually so they will not be changed by my gateway after
>>>> reboot. I remember when i was using ubuntu i could save them but for
>>>> some reason the control panel hasn't been able to do that. is there a
>>>> file I can edit somewhere? any help at all would be greatly
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hey Nate,
>>>
>>> I don't have that problem, because I set up my DSL router to forward
>>> that info automatically via DHCP. The only gateway according to my
>>> 64studio PC is the address of the router.
>>>
>>> I don't know If this helped you by any degree though...
>>>
>>> Quentin
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 64studio-devel at 64studio.com
>> http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
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Will the book be available free on line?
If not I'm not interested.
cheers
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